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Captain Tardbar
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Posted - 2013.02.15 00:47:00 -
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Sarah Schneider wrote:I seriously skipped almost the entirety of the OP's posts.
That wall of text appeared and my eyes said no. "Entitlement" is a euphemism for "I hate the way you play and it makes me cry like a baby". If you fantasize about being immoral it means you enjoy being immoral deep down. |

Captain Tardbar
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Posted - 2013.02.15 00:55:00 -
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The argument that Trammel killed UO doesn't hold up because of the fact Seige Perilous existed and continue to exists to this day. Anyone who wanted old school PvP could go to Seige Perilous and get their fix.
What killed UO to the most extent was EQ and then WoW.
Actually you can still play UO today if you want to play.
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Posted - 2013.02.15 02:00:00 -
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The more I think about the more I support ganking and bad behavior*, but what I don't really support is the over glorified aspect James comes across as. These alt threads are tedious and often too many in their numbers. Its just sickening brown nosing by people who all pretend they are a big deal. You bump miners and gank miners. Big deal. So could I if I was motivated.
What really irks me is the crowd that demands drastic changes to the game to support their playstyle. The brandish words like "entitlement" and "sandbox" and basically whine and cry to say the game needs to be changed to suit their playstyle. Drastics changes are just bad for the game. The game works pretty well as it is. Let's let CCP do their jobs and come up with incremental changes to keep the game fresh and balanced. Not to make it easier for you. HTFU. This goes for both griefers and carebears.
*The only reason I think bumping is silly is because its bad pyshics of a game engine that doesn't know any better. Bumping with battlships should be what is logical. No the mass ratio we get now with frigs bumping things 100 times their size. Take a marble and hit a bowling ball. Even in zero g, the bowling ball only moves a fraction compared to the marble flying off into space. But I suppose we are playing submainres in space so I suppose there isn't any good solutions floating around. "Entitlement" is a euphemism for "I hate the way you play and it makes me cry like a baby". If you fantasize about being immoral it means you enjoy being immoral deep down. |

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Posted - 2013.02.15 02:13:00 -
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Nicolo da'Vicenza wrote:Lord Ovuld Feish wrote:I will be the first person to log onto a "Trammel" Eve.
If I understood your OP correctly, Trammel was more populated than the original. So players DIDN'T WANT RISK. It had a brief spike matched and surpassed by previous PVP UO expansions, then as the 'themepark' aspect began to get old everyone left. Short term gain, long term detriment to the game.
Truth be told. I made new players quit UO. I would sit in town and find new players (you could tell by their clothing). Give them some gold and tell them you have some more out in the woods. Take them out to your house. Log out and then back in with your murderer dread lord and show them what its like to lose everything in the game.
Sometimes if their ghost was around I'd rez them and then put them down again. COR POR
I was not the only one who did this.
Even though I enjoyed this immensley I completly understood why EA created trammel. They did it because the player base abused and caused new players to quit. Without new subs, there was no way to replace the losses from all the older players who were quitting because they too were being griefed out the game.
In effect, we griefers were to blame of why trammel was created.
In that respect you must understand why CCP must provide safe havens for new and even older players in EvE as they do now. There is no extreme need to expand that, but there is also a very good reason to why CCP should keep the status quo.
The have to keep new players and those who don't enjoy being griefed. "Entitlement" is a euphemism for "I hate the way you play and it makes me cry like a baby". If you fantasize about being immoral it means you enjoy being immoral deep down. |

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Posted - 2013.02.15 02:59:00 -
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Corey Fumimasa wrote:Your assumption here is that CCP is after growth is not proven, they are not a public company and answer to only themselves. And in any case having more data doesn't guarantee that a company will make the "correct" decisions. History is full of companies and people who had all the answers and still didn't achieve their objectives..
Correction. CCP is answerable to Novator Partner and General Catalyst Partners.
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If either of those owners do not like the rate of return that CCP gives, I'm sure they they can pull the strings to demand changes.
This means CCP will do what they think will get them the greatest profit in their niche of an MMO. That means catering to playstyles that maybe different than yours in order to maximize profit.
Don't like it? Vote communist and nationalize CCP. "Entitlement" is a euphemism for "I hate the way you play and it makes me cry like a baby". If you fantasize about being immoral it means you enjoy being immoral deep down. |

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Posted - 2013.02.15 03:01:00 -
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Nicolo da'Vicenza wrote:Sariah Kion wrote:Dismiss this all you want to citing mechanics within individual expansions instead of seeing the reality as high sec has been slowly morphed into what it is today and correlating that with the steady rise in subscriptions and where that population growth resides in the galaxy. The long term numbers say all that needs to be said. Cool so we can also pretend Incarna was a big success because like you say, subs are greater now then they were in the past.
I've been seeing numbers as high as 58,000 over the past few weekends. Wouldn't you say that is pretty health numbers compared to a few years ago? Say 2009? "Entitlement" is a euphemism for "I hate the way you play and it makes me cry like a baby". If you fantasize about being immoral it means you enjoy being immoral deep down. |
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